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    To pole strap or not that is the question

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    • bootroom
      2014-02-15 01:02:33

      To pole strap or not that is the question

      I am not sure if this the right place for this post but being a self professed gear hog I will put it hear anyway. I am still curious how the age old debate,20 years plus, continues in the backcountry whether to put on you pole straps or not for the down hill.  Even with all the advanced in BC poles many of my friends have this ongoing debate.  Some even go to the extent to cut the straps off thier poles,,,Brad and for others it is a never leave home without them.  I have heard the arguments of dislocated shoulder, getting free of gear in an avie but I have also heard the I do not want to walk back uphill 100 m for someone's pole or touring out for two more days with only one pole.  So backcountry skiing fans what is the take from this group.  Let's start our own pole ( sorry bad pun) so we can stand strong at th top of our favorite BC run and say well you should or should not put your pole straps on.  Give up your best reason for the pro or con of this ever lingering debate and maybe..just maybe we can put this to rest once and for all in 2014....

    • skifreak
      2014-02-15 10:17:08

      I would vote a resounding "NO POLE STRAPS". Two years ago I fell into a tree well in bounds at Whitewater and if I had been using my pole straps I likely would not be here today as I would have been stuck and suffocated. Pole straps should really be outlawed, they provide no utility that we cannot manage with the fingers on our hands. After my tree well incident I removed the pole straps on all of the poles I own as well as those of my family.

      Do yourself a favour and remove the straps today, it may feel weird at first but it just might save you life. 

    • Powder Creek Lodge
      2014-02-15 18:18:36

      This is one of the few 'black and white' rules of the BC.  NO POLE STRAPS:


      -drags you down in a tree well

      -holds you down in an avalanche

      -poles can get caught in the trees leading to dislocated shoulder (or worse)


      A lot of people even go as far as to cut off the straps but that is a personal decision.

    • pwdr
      2014-02-16 20:11:49

      There are two types of skiers; those that ski with pole straps and those that have fallen head-first into a tree well.
    • JF
      2014-02-16 20:46:10

      I've never skied without straps, up or down. It feels good to have them, naked without. But I'm open to changing if it's for the better. I see absolutely no problem skiing inbounds with straps.

      Touring though, I can see how it could be very bad in an avalanche situation. The avalanche would basically take control of your hands if the poles get caught, preventing you from ''swimming'' to stay on top and would drag you under (all depending on type/size of avalanche). Also, if you're under and getting dug out, it's a pain to get the poles off and would save valuable seconds if there are no straps.

      If you remember the video from the Grizzly couloir avalanche, there was one skier and one snowboarder caught near the top of the couloir. I doubt Mark (the skier) had pole straps on. He explained how he ditched one pole (and skis) and self-arrested with two hands on the other pole. He stopped halfway down the couloir and the avalanche passed him. He walked out uninjured physically. The snowboarder who was above him at the top, got dragged down all the way by his snowboard I'm guessing, having no real way to ditch it. I remember 15 years ago in Rossland, I met a snowboarder who chose to use hard boots for this reason: it would be easier to ditch in case of an avalanche. 

      All this to bring together another thing. Pole straps may fall in the same category as non-releaseable bindings such as the ones on snowboards, and people locking their dynafits.

      Tree wells are easily predictable and I think it's very easy to avoid them. Dislocated shoulders? Maybe it would be an issue for people that ski with poles all over the place, but I personally don't see that as a possible problem if you keep control of your poles (same goes for broken legs and keeping control of your skis).

      Avalanches are unpredictable. Nobody that ever got caught in one expected it. If the possibility of getting caught in an avalanche is the reason for not wearing straps, one should not wear straps for as long as one has his beacon on. That means for the up and down. No need to cut them off, just punch out the pin (or remove the screw) and remove the straps if that is your choice. You can put them back on at the hill.

      I'm leaning towards removing the straps for touring. I know it would feel really akward for a while but as someone pointed out, you must get used to it, and grip your poles differently.

      I think this is a good discussion topic, thanks for starting it. 

    • admin
      2020-03-30 17:11:46

      I just recently created a video on this topic as it is so crucial that backcountry and resort skiers know how dangerous pole straps are. You can find that video link on this blog post.

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