Our local hill Whitewater does not allow in bounds uphill touring and if anything, they have tightened up their policies in the past few years. Now you can no longer skin up to ski laps before the resort opens on powder days (I kind of understand that one). They do have a one ride pass but it costs $20 which is pretty steep for a 900' or 1300' ride.

I would like to see them dedicate a single run for up-hill touring to help promote fitness and the sport but I guess they would argue that there is so much other terrain around the resort that backcountry skiers should use the backcountry?

Others input?

Absolutley not.For one,its a business,not a very profitable one if people choose to cheap out and use  the expensive infrustructure they' ve layed out and tour.Even if you're willing to put out a small fee,it ain't worth it,for them.Second,insurance is the most expensive portion of running a ski hill,they aren't covered if you don' t pay,or are you.Thirdly and lastly,why would you want to? Seriously,isn' t there enough terrain,better terrain elsewhere?I realize there isn't a lodge,food,beer and lifts full if people watching you saying" that dude is awesome" outside of the resort.If you wanna' ski at the hill,pay and ski or go outside of the resort and do some real" free skiing".

Uphilling at ski resorts is great for training, getting out solo, pre or post work. Most of these ski resorts operate on public land, they should allow us to access it. And how hard is it to set up a dedicated route along a boundary fence? 

camille.benoit@sympatico.ca said:

Looking for input and opinions on weither or not Canadian resorts should allow uphill touring inside their boundaries. If you look at the resorts in the States, some of them have policies with restricted routes, specific hours and day passes/waivers allowing their guests to skin/snowshoe/splitboard/bootpack up in order to earn their turns. May seem silly but it also is a new trend… 

Pros and cons for the guests:

- Health, physical activity

- Different activity

- Cheaper

- Earn your turns

- Extra thing to be aware of going downhill

- Less space on the run

- Others…

Pros and cons for the resort:

- Increase in business (cafeteria, restaurant, bar, rentals, daycare, retail store, others…)

- Risk management and liability

- Reputation and image

- Variety of activities to offer

- Cater to larger/different market

- Might increase incidents (will it though?) and patrol work

- Others…

Examples:

http://www.mtspokane.com/uphil.....vel-policy

http://www.ussma.org/resort-up.....l-policies

Any comments are welcome!

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Pros and cons for the resort:

- Increase in business (cafeteria, restaurant, bar, rentals, daycare, retail store, others…)

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If you're too cheap to pay for a resort lift ticket, then you are probably the type that would bring your own food, as well (I would be fairly confident to say this with quite a bit of certainty!)!

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Absolutely not. First off, it's a business—and not a very profitable one if people choose to cut costs by just using the expensive infrastructure they’ve put in place for paid users. Even if you're willing to pay a small fee, it likely wouldn't be worth it for the resort. Second, insurance is one of the highest costs of running a ski hill, and coverage doesn’t extend to people who haven't paid, putting everyone at risk. Lastly, why would you want to? There’s plenty of terrain, and  beaches of Holland  often better options, outside the resort. I get it—there’s no lodge, food, beer, or lifts filled with people watching, thinking, “That person’s awesome.” But if you want to ski at the hill, just pay and enjoy it, or head out of bounds and experience true “free skiing” where it’s actually allowed. 

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